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Goleta Sewage: Wilson's Phalarope, not Stilt Sandpiper

mcnulty-p@...
 

(My apologies if this message appears more than once on the list. I am
having trouble getting it posted, and I did want to get this message
out before lunch so people don't decide to go to the sewage ponds based
on bad info.)

I went back to the Goleta Sewage ponds this morning to look at the bird
again and I'm embarrased to say that I now believe that it's a Wilson's
Phalarope. My apologies for getting people all stirred up on a false
alarm. The bill is too thin and straight for the Stilt. I guess I'm
not used to seeing a phalarope hanging around in the mud flats with the
Dowitchers.

I was not certain enough of the id to put it out on the list, but I
should have realized that it might end up there anyway. I need to
learn not to send any email messages after 11 pm.

Patrick

Patrick McNulty Phone: (805) 967-9900
Santa Barbara, CA E-Mail: mcnulty-p@...

Re: Fw: Stilt Sandpiper at Goleta Sewage?

Melissa Kelly <lis@...>
 

Those sewage ponds deserve close attention right now. I'm itching to get
out there but I have only until noon to complete my portions of next year's
funding proposal. As soon as I'm done though I'm sneakin' outta here...
Melissa Kelly


Karen Bridgers wrote:

Could someone check this out today, please????

Karen
----- Original Message -----
From: Patrick McNulty <mcnulty@...>
To: Joan Lentz <jelentz@...>; Dave Compton <DCompton@...>;
Karen Bridgers <kbridgers@...>; Mark Holmgren
<holmgren@...>
Sent: Monday, August 23, 1999 11:45 PM
Subject: Stilt Sandpiper at Goleta Sewage?


Well,

I finally got logged into the SBCOBirds list and my first message
read was Mark's today about the Goleta Sewage Ponds at lunchtime
today. I was so excited about the Solitary Sandpiper that I went
right over. Got there at 5:15 and nicely asked some folks
waiting for a board meeting if I could go in ( after telling them
how great they'd been about the CUSA and explaining where it's
usual range is, etc.) They said fine, go on back.

I couldn't find a solitary sandpiper, but did find different one,
dark and white, 50% bigger than the Westerns, 30% smaller than
the Dowitchers. I tried to describe it quite a while into my
tape recorder, and now that I'm home with my books I think it
was a Stilt Sandpiper. I will get back tomorrow at 8am (if
they're open?) or noon, but I would of course be grateful if
someone would go over and pass judgement on my id.

I was looking at it through my scope at 35 feet or so, on the
flats on the near side of the middle pond. Hanging around with
Westerns and dowitchers (short-billed?). It flew away at least 3
times when the birds would get spooked into flight, but would
return to that area after about 5 minutes. It was there when I
left (as I promised them I would) at 6:05.

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Re: Fw: Stilt Sandpiper at Goleta Sewage?

Florence Sanchez <sanchez@...>
 

I'll try to get over there on my lunch hour. Unfortunately, all I have
with me today are my crummy binoculars. But since there was a solitary sp
there yesterday, It's very possible that there could be stilt sp as well.
we should also look for pectorals, too. (Legacy from my midwestern
experiences!)
Florence

On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, Karen Bridgers wrote:

Could someone check this out today, please????

Karen
----- Original Message -----
From: Patrick McNulty <mcnulty@...>
To: Joan Lentz <jelentz@...>; Dave Compton <DCompton@...>;
Karen Bridgers <kbridgers@...>; Mark Holmgren
<holmgren@...>
Sent: Monday, August 23, 1999 11:45 PM
Subject: Stilt Sandpiper at Goleta Sewage?



Well,

I finally got logged into the SBCOBirds list and my first message
read was Mark's today about the Goleta Sewage Ponds at lunchtime
today. I was so excited about the Solitary Sandpiper that I went
right over. Got there at 5:15 and nicely asked some folks
waiting for a board meeting if I could go in ( after telling them
how great they'd been about the CUSA and explaining where it's
usual range is, etc.) They said fine, go on back.

I couldn't find a solitary sandpiper, but did find different one,
dark and white, 50% bigger than the Westerns, 30% smaller than
the Dowitchers. I tried to describe it quite a while into my
tape recorder, and now that I'm home with my books I think it
was a Stilt Sandpiper. I will get back tomorrow at 8am (if
they're open?) or noon, but I would of course be grateful if
someone would go over and pass judgement on my id.

I was looking at it through my scope at 35 feet or so, on the
flats on the near side of the middle pond. Hanging around with
Westerns and dowitchers (short-billed?). It flew away at least 3
times when the birds would get spooked into flight, but would
return to that area after about 5 minutes. It was there when I
left (as I promised them I would) at 6:05.

--
Patrick McNulty W: (805) 893-4165
Santa Barbara. CA H: (805) 967-9900
mail: mcnulty@...



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Fw: Stilt Sandpiper at Goleta Sewage?

Karen Bridgers <kbridgers@...>
 

Could someone check this out today, please????

Karen

----- Original Message -----
From: Patrick McNulty <mcnulty@...>
To: Joan Lentz <jelentz@...>; Dave Compton <DCompton@...>;
Karen Bridgers <kbridgers@...>; Mark Holmgren
<holmgren@...>
Sent: Monday, August 23, 1999 11:45 PM
Subject: Stilt Sandpiper at Goleta Sewage?



Well,

I finally got logged into the SBCOBirds list and my first message
read was Mark's today about the Goleta Sewage Ponds at lunchtime
today. I was so excited about the Solitary Sandpiper that I went
right over. Got there at 5:15 and nicely asked some folks
waiting for a board meeting if I could go in ( after telling them
how great they'd been about the CUSA and explaining where it's
usual range is, etc.) They said fine, go on back.

I couldn't find a solitary sandpiper, but did find different one,
dark and white, 50% bigger than the Westerns, 30% smaller than
the Dowitchers. I tried to describe it quite a while into my
tape recorder, and now that I'm home with my books I think it
was a Stilt Sandpiper. I will get back tomorrow at 8am (if
they're open?) or noon, but I would of course be grateful if
someone would go over and pass judgement on my id.

I was looking at it through my scope at 35 feet or so, on the
flats on the near side of the middle pond. Hanging around with
Westerns and dowitchers (short-billed?). It flew away at least 3
times when the birds would get spooked into flight, but would
return to that area after about 5 minutes. It was there when I
left (as I promised them I would) at 6:05.

--
Patrick McNulty W: (805) 893-4165
Santa Barbara. CA H: (805) 967-9900
mail: mcnulty@...

Northern Saw-Whet Owls

Gene Lynch <grlynch@...>
 

Saturday evening, about 8:30 PM I heard at least two Northern Saw-Whet
Owls in the tall stand of Eucalyptus trees across the street and just a
little west of The Hitching Post in Casmalia. However, even with a light
I could not get a look at them.
Gene Lynch

Monday, 23 Aug 99, Gol San Dist ponds

Mark Holmgren <holmgren@...>
 

Hi folks,
     At noon today, Monday, 23 Aug 99, at the Gol. San Dist, Morgan Ball and I had a Solitary Sandpiper (white spotted form), a Wood Duck, 1 Wilson's Phalarope, 2 common terns, and 2 or 3 Forsters Terns.   Nice close looks at the terns were possible.  The Solitary Sandpiper hides a bit in the vegetation in the center pond.
Mark
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SLO County RBA

Mike Stiles <mstiles@...>
 

SB Co Birders,

Many of you are aware of this, but I wanted to offer others the
opportunity to join the San Luis Obispo county Rare Bird Alert Email
system. The service focuses on rare or unusual birds, or unusual arrival
or departure dates in San Luis Obispo County.

To join, send your name and email address to rbowker@... and ask
to be added to "bio.rarebirds." A welcome message will be sent outlining
posting guidelines. Once you are signed up, a message sent to
bio.rarebirds@... will be forwarded to the whole group.

If you have any questions feel free to email me.

Thanks
Mike Stiles
mstiles@...

SYR empties

brad hines <bkhnca@...>
 

What began as a trickle Friday morning, became a raging river late Sat
or early Sunday. Those of you familiar with the Santa Ynez River mouth
in summer, know that it may be full of water well into December. The
exposed mud offers a food source to the migrant shorebirds and others.
My brief check this morning revealed a variety of birds. I will check
later today for any noticeable turnover.

no CuSa

brad hines <bkhnca@...>
 

My morning search for the Curlew Sandpiper on VAFB was unsuccessful.
Five Bairds remained along with two Lesser Yellowlegs.

Curlew Sandpiper

Joan E. Lentz <jelentz@...>
 

Hi Birders! Yesterday Joan Hardie brought by some excellent slides of the
Goleta Sewage Treatment plant bird. If only we could get some decent ones
of the SYRE bird, separation (or merging?) of the 2 individuals should be
feasible. Until such time as I see good slides of each bird, i.d. &
conclusions will not be possible. I'll put this on Calbird. Thanks for
your help--& I still need descriptions of the SYRE bird on my e-mail. Joan
Lentz

Re: Curlew Sandpiper

Karen Bridgers <kbridgers@...>
 

Since I received no response to my query on Curlew Sandpiper sightings, I
assume no one in SB County has looked for the bird recently. An LA birder
did confirm that the bird was seen on Monday morning, so that adds another
day. There are still at least two out-of-town birders per day calling me
about the bird, so if any of you could fill me it I would appreciate it. If
I didn't have to work, I'd go up there myself!

Thanks!

Karen Bridgers
kbridgers@...

----- Original Message -----
From: <jcwings@...>
To: CA- Santa Barbara Co Birding <sbcobirding@...>
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 8:59 PM
Subject: [sbcobirding] re: Curlew Sandpiper


Joan and others,

As we were standing at the VAFB pond looking at it Sunday morning, Brad
Hines mentioned to me that there were a couple of guys attempting to
photograph the bird on Saturday. Perhaps a post to CALBIRD would flush
these guys out. I got the impression they weren't from around here.
There were many birders up from the LA area to look at it.

There is a photo of the Goleta bird by Don DesJardin available on Joe
Morlan's web site. Go to: http://fog.ccsf.cc.ca.us/~jmorlan/gallery.htm.
You can't see enough of that bird in detail to make any real
distinctions between the two (in my opinion) but I do recall the VAFB
bird had an extensive area of white in the flanks. Quite noticeable when
the bird lifted its wings or when it was in flight. Some photos and
illustrations I have of CuSa show this area to be mainly red but this is
probably variable, especially as a bird molts. This is difficult to
discern in Don's photo but it looks a little more red there on the
Goleta bird. Some may disagree.

A possible similarity is the appearance of a pale supercilium which I
noticed on the VAFB bird. This appears also on the Goleta bird photo.
Reminiscent of a Red-necked Stint. Some photos I came across show the
face to often be solid reddish color- lacking a supercilium. I cannot
honestly compare the two, other than the single photo, since I was not
able to see the Goleta CuSa. Just some thoughts.

Jamie Chavez
Santa Maria
jcwings@...



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Re: Curlew Sandpiper

jcwings@pronet.net <jcwings@...>
 

Joan and others,

As we were standing at the VAFB pond looking at it Sunday morning, Brad
Hines mentioned to me that there were a couple of guys attempting to
photograph the bird on Saturday. Perhaps a post to CALBIRD would flush
these guys out. I got the impression they weren't from around here.
There were many birders up from the LA area to look at it.

There is a photo of the Goleta bird by Don DesJardin available on Joe
Morlan's web site. Go to: http://fog.ccsf.cc.ca.us/~jmorlan/gallery.htm.
You can't see enough of that bird in detail to make any real
distinctions between the two (in my opinion) but I do recall the VAFB
bird had an extensive area of white in the flanks. Quite noticeable when
the bird lifted its wings or when it was in flight. Some photos and
illustrations I have of CuSa show this area to be mainly red but this is
probably variable, especially as a bird molts. This is difficult to
discern in Don's photo but it looks a little more red there on the
Goleta bird. Some may disagree.

A possible similarity is the appearance of a pale supercilium which I
noticed on the VAFB bird. This appears also on the Goleta bird photo.
Reminiscent of a Red-necked Stint. Some photos I came across show the
face to often be solid reddish color- lacking a supercilium. I cannot
honestly compare the two, other than the single photo, since I was not
able to see the Goleta CuSa. Just some thoughts.

Jamie Chavez
Santa Maria
jcwings@...

Re: Curlew Sandpiper

Dave Compton <DCompton@...>
 

Oops. I guess my vote would have to be to change the Reply function. I don't
always notice who messages were sent to. Just my opinion.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Compton [SMTP:DCompton@...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 2:21 PM
To: 'sbcobirding@...'
Subject: [sbcobirding] Re: Curlew Sandpiper

Hi Joan

I saw the CuSa, but got no photos. Saw it poorly, anyway. I don't join in
the assumptions that this is probably the same bird, until someone offers
a
little proof.

Did you fly to Santa Rosa or go by boat? Kathleen and I went on a Condor
Blue Whale trip Sunday. It was a great whale trip, but not much for birds:
three Cassin's Auklets, five Pigeon Guillemots (all near the painted
cave),
a couple dozen PF Shearwaters, a Jaeger, and LOTS of RN Phalaropes and
Sooty
Shearwaters. No Storm-petrels at all.

Went to the sewage plant today. Mark, John Gallo, and Morgan Ball were
just
coming out when I arrived. Good numbers of peeps, but seemed to be all
Western and Least. Later.

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Joan E. Lentz [SMTP:jelentz@...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 1:53 PM
To: SB Co Bird
Subject: [sbcobirding] Curlew Sandpiper

Hi birders: I was on S. Rosa Is. all weekend & returned to find my
e-mail
messages re a Curlew Sandpiper at SYRE. OK. I need your help. Is
there
ANYBODY who got photos of the SYRE bird? We will need them badly to
determine whether or not it's the same or a different bird from the one
at
Goleta STP. Right now, there's absolutely no way of telling whether
they
are the same individual.
IF you have photos of the SYRE bird, I would appreciate hearing from
you
ASAP. IF you have a description of the SYRE bird, I would appreciate
having that description via e-mail ASAP.
Thanks for all your help! Joan Lentz



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Re: Curlew Sandpiper

Dave Compton <DCompton@...>
 

Hi Joan

I saw the CuSa, but got no photos. Saw it poorly, anyway. I don't join in
the assumptions that this is probably the same bird, until someone offers a
little proof.

Did you fly to Santa Rosa or go by boat? Kathleen and I went on a Condor
Blue Whale trip Sunday. It was a great whale trip, but not much for birds:
three Cassin's Auklets, five Pigeon Guillemots (all near the painted cave),
a couple dozen PF Shearwaters, a Jaeger, and LOTS of RN Phalaropes and Sooty
Shearwaters. No Storm-petrels at all.

Went to the sewage plant today. Mark, John Gallo, and Morgan Ball were just
coming out when I arrived. Good numbers of peeps, but seemed to be all
Western and Least. Later.

Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Joan E. Lentz [SMTP:jelentz@...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 1:53 PM
To: SB Co Bird
Subject: [sbcobirding] Curlew Sandpiper

Hi birders: I was on S. Rosa Is. all weekend & returned to find my e-mail
messages re a Curlew Sandpiper at SYRE. OK. I need your help. Is there
ANYBODY who got photos of the SYRE bird? We will need them badly to
determine whether or not it's the same or a different bird from the one at
Goleta STP. Right now, there's absolutely no way of telling whether they
are the same individual.
IF you have photos of the SYRE bird, I would appreciate hearing from
you
ASAP. IF you have a description of the SYRE bird, I would appreciate
having that description via e-mail ASAP.
Thanks for all your help! Joan Lentz



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Curlew Sandpiper

Joan E. Lentz <jelentz@...>
 

Hi birders: I was on S. Rosa Is. all weekend & returned to find my e-mail
messages re a Curlew Sandpiper at SYRE. OK. I need your help. Is there
ANYBODY who got photos of the SYRE bird? We will need them badly to
determine whether or not it's the same or a different bird from the one at
Goleta STP. Right now, there's absolutely no way of telling whether they
are the same individual.
IF you have photos of the SYRE bird, I would appreciate hearing from you
ASAP. IF you have a description of the SYRE bird, I would appreciate
having that description via e-mail ASAP.
Thanks for all your help! Joan Lentz

peeps

brad hines <bkhnca@...>
 

Has anyone checked Goleta STP this week?

Re: Curlew Sandpiper?

BJSmith299@...
 

It was still there when I left at 11 am on Sunday--Bob Smith, Santa Maria

tuesday birds

brad hines <bkhnca@...>
 

Hi folks,      I  birded Santa Ynez River mouth this evening. Good numbers of shorebirds remain. Two SemiSandpipers, three juv Lesser Yellowlegs,and a Bairds were the highlight species. No time to look for the Curlew Sandpiper; sorry. Hundreds of Sooty Shearwaters were streaming by just offshore. A super evening at the beach. The weekend is almost here!  Think Spooooonbill!  You  can do it ? 

Curlew Sandpiper?

Karen Bridgers <kbridgers@...>
 

Can anyone give me an update on the Curlew Sandpiper? Last I heard was that
it was still there Sunday, but I still have out-of-town birders calling me
for the status.

Even if you looked and didn't find it that would be helpful.

Thanks!

Karen Bridgers
kbridgers@...

Re: Curlew Sandpiper

Gene Lynch <grlynch@...>
 

A reminder of something Brad Hines mentioned in one of his notices.
1. It is not legal to walk across the trestle at Ocean Park, in addition
to being very dangerous.
2. The pond north of the trestle where the Curlew Sandpiper has been
located is on Vandenberg Air Force Base. It is not legal to be there
without proper base identification or visitor's pass.
Be careful and wise.
Gene Lynch
La Purisima AS
Lompoc, Santa Maria, Santa Ynez