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Re: [EXTERNAL] [sbcobirding] Gaviota Area - Attempted Hawk Watch

Peter Schneekloth
 

I think Nick is right about the altitude issue. Around Great Lakes, along Gulf or east coast they can be very high. They are famous for coming down the Appalachian in Pennsylvania in large kettles at easy to observe altitude. Look up hawk mountain. I like Rebecca’s approach of get out and get looking. 




On Friday, September 28, 2018, 10:42 AM, Nick Lethaby via Groups.Io <nlethaby@...> wrote:

 

Just remember a lot of BW Hawk migration research is probably from the E side of the country where mountain ranges are very limited. In the West, where mountain ranges are widespread their migration pattern might be different. Second “too high to see” might be true at Corpus Cristi or Cape May at sea level, but might not be true if you are at 1500-2000’. If BW Hawks were just randomly flying through and roosting  randomly in the county, I would expect a lot more casual sightings by birders along the south coast. Such sightings are pretty much non-existent, whereas we already know they are regular along the mountain ridge. That may be because that is where the thermals are along the S Coast.

 

From: main@sbcobirding.groups.io [mailto:main@sbcobirding.groups.io] On Behalf Of Wim van Dam
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 10:25 AM
To: Rebecca Coulter; sbcobirding
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] [sbcobirding] Gaviota Area - Attempted Hawk Watch

 

Hi Rebecca, 

 

[Well, I'm glad that I'm not the only one who still needs this bird...] Some people have theorized that Romero Saddle might be good spot, but I don't think that anyone has seriously tried it or other parts of East Camino Cielo. I know that Mark H has tried San Marcos Pass Rd (i.e. south-west of Santa Ynez Mountains) but that that was a bust. Reading up about Broad-winged Hawk migration I learned that the best time to see them is around 10-11AM when they take off, and between 3-4PM when they settle down to roost. In between those hours they are flying too high to see. The eBird fall reports appear to confirm these times as the most favorable. Apparently, because of their high flying, they don't really hug ridges like other raptors do. Instead they do care about thermals, which I expect to occur in the Santa Ynez Valley, between the Santa Ynez Mountains and the San Rafael Mountains. To get a sense of current and future temperature and wind conditions I use this pretty map:

 

 

 

Wim

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 7:40 AM, Rebecca Coulter <rfcphoebe@...> wrote:

Have La Cumbre Peak or any of the saddles along East Camino Cielo ever been considered possible passages for Broad-winged Hawk? Or do they tend to skirt the higher ridges? I know very little about their migration path along our California coast, other than the Marin site and now the Montecito and Carpinteria sites in recent years (Bella Vista and Franklin). I have not seen this species in the county, so I’m thinking about an outing this weekend...

 

Rebecca Coulter 

SB


On Sep 27, 2018, at 4:35 PM, Peter Schneekloth via Groups.Io <peterschneekloth@...> wrote:

Good insight Nick, if anyone else has thoughts about where the hawks are moving through N County please share. From where I was I could easily see and ID the TV's and Red-tails above that peak so would have seen, but maybe struggled to ID, anything moving through. I also make a fair number of visit's to the Gaviota Fennel Patch which also gives good views up to that peak, historically not a lot of birds seen. So I opted for something a bit more inland (and importantly easier to hike to).

 

I'm optimistic about my location E of Santa Maria planned for tomorrow, we shall see.

 

Peter Schneekloth

 

On ‎Thursday‎, ‎September‎ ‎27‎, ‎2018‎ ‎04‎:‎14‎:‎59‎ ‎PM‎ ‎PDT, Lethaby, Nick <nlethaby@...> wrote:

 

 

It might be worth trying the 101 pass crest above Gaviota as birds may move along the ridge there. Ken and I checked out Tranq Peak once in early Oct and had about 4 accipiters in a quick burst but then nothing for an hour. There are certainly a few migrant raptors getting into the Pt Conception area, but only small numbers. FWIW I found a BW Hawk a few years back in Oct on the western edge of Lompoc (Floradale x Central). It was likely just taking off from roosting in the riparian strip there and interestingly headed off ENE presumably to catch some thermals in the Purisima Hills. This would support the route you originally suggested.

 

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] [sbcobirding] Gaviota Area - Attempted Hawk Watch

 

I spent just over two hours this morning (10:00 AM to 12:15 PM in the Gaviota area. I was not expecting a ton of birds but still wanted to sample if any hawks could be detected moving through the area. I found a spot on the Tunnel View Trail that allowed views of the ocean to the S and the Hwy 101 X 1 interchange to the N. This gave me a sweeping view of the hills to the west of the freeway. Location shown on the map here:

https://mapper.acme.com/?ll=34.49640,-120.22671&z=14&t=R&marker0=34.49640%2C-120.22671%2C1.3%20km%20S%20of%20Las%20Cruces%20CA 

The Gaviota area is visited by a lot of birders so if large movements of birds was normal here it certainly would have been detected before. Today only minimal movement was detected. I had 1 Sharp-shinned, 2 Coopers, 1 Red-shouldered and 4-5 Red-tailed Hawks. It is likely that at least the Red-tails and possibly the Coopers and Red-shouldered were local. At least one of the Coopers and the Red-shouldered felt as if they were moving east, the Sharpie almost certainly so. Local Turkey Vultures and White-throated Swift were visible for much of the time. 

I have another spot just E of Santa Maria I will be trying tomorrow.

Peter Schneekloth
Buellton

 

 


--
Wim van Dam (Solvang, CA)

SBCO #377+3: Least Bittern


Re: [EXTERNAL] [sbcobirding] Gaviota Area - Attempted Hawk Watch

Cuyler Stapelmann
 

Here are my two cents, or whatever you think its worth. From a geographic standpoint, it would make sense that any southbound migrant would run into the south coast, and make a turn to the east hawks and songbirds included. But as Wim points out, I think thermals are the key here for hawks. Point Conception, Hollister Ranch, and Gaviota are known to be quite windy. I don't know a whole lot about atmospheric science, but I would suspect that strong cool winds from the ocean might affect the formation/presence of thermals along the immediate coast; accordingly, that would make that area less desirable to migrating hawks. Again this is all my speculation, but I would suspect that hawks use a more inland migratory route that takes advantage of the protection that the Coast Ranges afford interior areas from cool ocean wind, but also areas where coastal convection creates thermals beneficial to migrating hawks. This doesn't explain why we are seeing broad-winged hawks along our coastal mountains, except for the possibility of reliable vagrants or hawks passing through when coastal conditions do not prevent thermals. 

Cuyler
Santa Barbara

On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 10:25 AM Wim van Dam <wim.van.dam@...> wrote:
Hi Rebecca, 

[Well, I'm glad that I'm not the only one who still needs this bird...] Some people have theorized that Romero Saddle might be good spot, but I don't think that anyone has seriously tried it or other parts of East Camino Cielo. I know that Mark H has tried San Marcos Pass Rd (i.e. south-west of Santa Ynez Mountains) but that that was a bust. Reading up about Broad-winged Hawk migration I learned that the best time to see them is around 10-11AM when they take off, and between 3-4PM when they settle down to roost. In between those hours they are flying too high to see. The eBird fall reports appear to confirm these times as the most favorable. Apparently, because of their high flying, they don't really hug ridges like other raptors do. Instead they do care about thermals, which I expect to occur in the Santa Ynez Valley, between the Santa Ynez Mountains and the San Rafael Mountains. To get a sense of current and future temperature and wind conditions I use this pretty map:



Wim







On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 7:40 AM, Rebecca Coulter <rfcphoebe@...> wrote:
Have La Cumbre Peak or any of the saddles along East Camino Cielo ever been considered possible passages for Broad-winged Hawk? Or do they tend to skirt the higher ridges? I know very little about their migration path along our California coast, other than the Marin site and now the Montecito and Carpinteria sites in recent years (Bella Vista and Franklin). I have not seen this species in the county, so I’m thinking about an outing this weekend...

Rebecca Coulter 
SB

On Sep 27, 2018, at 4:35 PM, Peter Schneekloth via Groups.Io <peterschneekloth@...> wrote:

Good insight Nick, if anyone else has thoughts about where the hawks are moving through N County please share. From where I was I could easily see and ID the TV's and Red-tails above that peak so would have seen, but maybe struggled to ID, anything moving through. I also make a fair number of visit's to the Gaviota Fennel Patch which also gives good views up to that peak, historically not a lot of birds seen. So I opted for something a bit more inland (and importantly easier to hike to).

I'm optimistic about my location E of Santa Maria planned for tomorrow, we shall see.

Peter Schneekloth

On ‎Thursday‎, ‎September‎ ‎27‎, ‎2018‎ ‎04‎:‎14‎:‎59‎ ‎PM‎ ‎PDT, Lethaby, Nick <nlethaby@...> wrote:


It might be worth trying the 101 pass crest above Gaviota as birds may move along the ridge there. Ken and I checked out Tranq Peak once in early Oct and had about 4 accipiters in a quick burst but then nothing for an hour. There are certainly a few migrant raptors getting into the Pt Conception area, but only small numbers. FWIW I found a BW Hawk a few years back in Oct on the western edge of Lompoc (Floradale x Central). It was likely just taking off from roosting in the riparian strip there and interestingly headed off ENE presumably to catch some thermals in the Purisima Hills. This would support the route you originally suggested.
 
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] [sbcobirding] Gaviota Area - Attempted Hawk Watch
 
I spent just over two hours this morning (10:00 AM to 12:15 PM in the Gaviota area. I was not expecting a ton of birds but still wanted to sample if any hawks could be detected moving through the area. I found a spot on the Tunnel View Trail that allowed views of the ocean to the S and the Hwy 101 X 1 interchange to the N. This gave me a sweeping view of the hills to the west of the freeway. Location shown on the map here:

https://mapper.acme.com/?ll=34.49640,-120.22671&z=14&t=R&marker0=34.49640%2C-120.22671%2C1.3%20km%20S%20of%20Las%20Cruces%20CA 

The Gaviota area is visited by a lot of birders so if large movements of birds was normal here it certainly would have been detected before. Today only minimal movement was detected. I had 1 Sharp-shinned, 2 Coopers, 1 Red-shouldered and 4-5 Red-tailed Hawks. It is likely that at least the Red-tails and possibly the Coopers and Red-shouldered were local. At least one of the Coopers and the Red-shouldered felt as if they were moving east, the Sharpie almost certainly so. Local Turkey Vultures and White-throated Swift were visible for much of the time. 

I have another spot just E of Santa Maria I will be trying tomorrow.

Peter Schneekloth
Buellton



--
Wim van Dam (Solvang, CA)
SBCO #377+3: Least Bittern


more on hawk watching in S.B. county

Joan Lentz (cox.net address)
 

Hi All:
This is all just a new frontier for us: what route do migrating raptors take if they’re flying south. For some reason, I have the feeling they’re going down or heading across the S. Y. Valley. If you read the accounts of telemetry on Broad-wings that Wim forwarded to us, the bird they tracked from GGRO in Marin was going by the Cuesta Ridge in S.L.O. county, then roosting somewhere near Figueroa Mtn., then they “lost it” until they picked it up on Saddleback Mtn. in Orange Co., etc.
I am wondering how far east you can get on Camino Cielo before you lose your view of the S. Y. valley upper watershed? Like, close to where Gibraltar Rd. comes up? But you’re still way west of the Romero Canyon saddle, which is a good hefty hike, even from the promontory above us on Bella Vista.
Here’s the deal: on Bella Vista the action is between 3:30-4:30 pm. We saw the 4 Broad-wings at 4 p.m. (thanks to John Callender’s accurate timing). I am not sure if that’s when the thermals kick in here along the south coast or what, but these birds WERE NOT FLYING HIGH. They were so low to the south/southeast that we almost missed them.
So the exciting thing is that it’s all experimental. It took Eric Culbertson years of waiting & watching before he established this location. I mean who knew?
Let’s go anywhere and everywhere to see if we can duplicate this.
As Curtis says (who was there yesterday): wherever you have large numbers of Accipiters going by, you have a migrant raptor corridor. I wasn’t aware of this, but I’m surprised at the number of Sharpies and Cooper’s going west to east. So that’s what you may be looking for, and then you get your eagle or your Broad-wing thrown in, you know?
Just thinking out loud. Sorry, now I’ll be quiet!!

Joan Lentz


Re: [EXTERNAL] [sbcobirding] Gaviota Area - Attempted Hawk Watch

Nick Lethaby <nlethaby@...>
 

 

Just remember a lot of BW Hawk migration research is probably from the E side of the country where mountain ranges are very limited. In the West, where mountain ranges are widespread their migration pattern might be different. Second “too high to see” might be true at Corpus Cristi or Cape May at sea level, but might not be true if you are at 1500-2000’. If BW Hawks were just randomly flying through and roosting  randomly in the county, I would expect a lot more casual sightings by birders along the south coast. Such sightings are pretty much non-existent, whereas we already know they are regular along the mountain ridge. That may be because that is where the thermals are along the S Coast.

 

From: main@sbcobirding.groups.io [mailto:main@sbcobirding.groups.io] On Behalf Of Wim van Dam
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 10:25 AM
To: Rebecca Coulter; sbcobirding
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] [sbcobirding] Gaviota Area - Attempted Hawk Watch

 

Hi Rebecca, 

 

[Well, I'm glad that I'm not the only one who still needs this bird...] Some people have theorized that Romero Saddle might be good spot, but I don't think that anyone has seriously tried it or other parts of East Camino Cielo. I know that Mark H has tried San Marcos Pass Rd (i.e. south-west of Santa Ynez Mountains) but that that was a bust. Reading up about Broad-winged Hawk migration I learned that the best time to see them is around 10-11AM when they take off, and between 3-4PM when they settle down to roost. In between those hours they are flying too high to see. The eBird fall reports appear to confirm these times as the most favorable. Apparently, because of their high flying, they don't really hug ridges like other raptors do. Instead they do care about thermals, which I expect to occur in the Santa Ynez Valley, between the Santa Ynez Mountains and the San Rafael Mountains. To get a sense of current and future temperature and wind conditions I use this pretty map:

 

 

 

Wim

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 7:40 AM, Rebecca Coulter <rfcphoebe@...> wrote:

Have La Cumbre Peak or any of the saddles along East Camino Cielo ever been considered possible passages for Broad-winged Hawk? Or do they tend to skirt the higher ridges? I know very little about their migration path along our California coast, other than the Marin site and now the Montecito and Carpinteria sites in recent years (Bella Vista and Franklin). I have not seen this species in the county, so I’m thinking about an outing this weekend...

 

Rebecca Coulter 

SB


On Sep 27, 2018, at 4:35 PM, Peter Schneekloth via Groups.Io <peterschneekloth@...> wrote:

Good insight Nick, if anyone else has thoughts about where the hawks are moving through N County please share. From where I was I could easily see and ID the TV's and Red-tails above that peak so would have seen, but maybe struggled to ID, anything moving through. I also make a fair number of visit's to the Gaviota Fennel Patch which also gives good views up to that peak, historically not a lot of birds seen. So I opted for something a bit more inland (and importantly easier to hike to).

 

I'm optimistic about my location E of Santa Maria planned for tomorrow, we shall see.

 

Peter Schneekloth

 

On ‎Thursday‎, ‎September‎ ‎27‎, ‎2018‎ ‎04‎:‎14‎:‎59‎ ‎PM‎ ‎PDT, Lethaby, Nick <nlethaby@...> wrote:

 

 

It might be worth trying the 101 pass crest above Gaviota as birds may move along the ridge there. Ken and I checked out Tranq Peak once in early Oct and had about 4 accipiters in a quick burst but then nothing for an hour. There are certainly a few migrant raptors getting into the Pt Conception area, but only small numbers. FWIW I found a BW Hawk a few years back in Oct on the western edge of Lompoc (Floradale x Central). It was likely just taking off from roosting in the riparian strip there and interestingly headed off ENE presumably to catch some thermals in the Purisima Hills. This would support the route you originally suggested.

 

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Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 4:06 PM
To: main@sbcobirding.groups.io
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] [sbcobirding] Gaviota Area - Attempted Hawk Watch

 

I spent just over two hours this morning (10:00 AM to 12:15 PM in the Gaviota area. I was not expecting a ton of birds but still wanted to sample if any hawks could be detected moving through the area. I found a spot on the Tunnel View Trail that allowed views of the ocean to the S and the Hwy 101 X 1 interchange to the N. This gave me a sweeping view of the hills to the west of the freeway. Location shown on the map here:

https://mapper.acme.com/?ll=34.49640,-120.22671&z=14&t=R&marker0=34.49640%2C-120.22671%2C1.3%20km%20S%20of%20Las%20Cruces%20CA 

The Gaviota area is visited by a lot of birders so if large movements of birds was normal here it certainly would have been detected before. Today only minimal movement was detected. I had 1 Sharp-shinned, 2 Coopers, 1 Red-shouldered and 4-5 Red-tailed Hawks. It is likely that at least the Red-tails and possibly the Coopers and Red-shouldered were local. At least one of the Coopers and the Red-shouldered felt as if they were moving east, the Sharpie almost certainly so. Local Turkey Vultures and White-throated Swift were visible for much of the time. 

I have another spot just E of Santa Maria I will be trying tomorrow.

Peter Schneekloth
Buellton

 

 


--
Wim van Dam (Solvang, CA)

SBCO #377+3: Least Bittern


Re: [EXTERNAL] [sbcobirding] Gaviota Area - Attempted Hawk Watch

Wim van Dam
 

Hi Rebecca, 

[Well, I'm glad that I'm not the only one who still needs this bird...] Some people have theorized that Romero Saddle might be good spot, but I don't think that anyone has seriously tried it or other parts of East Camino Cielo. I know that Mark H has tried San Marcos Pass Rd (i.e. south-west of Santa Ynez Mountains) but that that was a bust. Reading up about Broad-winged Hawk migration I learned that the best time to see them is around 10-11AM when they take off, and between 3-4PM when they settle down to roost. In between those hours they are flying too high to see. The eBird fall reports appear to confirm these times as the most favorable. Apparently, because of their high flying, they don't really hug ridges like other raptors do. Instead they do care about thermals, which I expect to occur in the Santa Ynez Valley, between the Santa Ynez Mountains and the San Rafael Mountains. To get a sense of current and future temperature and wind conditions I use this pretty map:



Wim







On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 7:40 AM, Rebecca Coulter <rfcphoebe@...> wrote:
Have La Cumbre Peak or any of the saddles along East Camino Cielo ever been considered possible passages for Broad-winged Hawk? Or do they tend to skirt the higher ridges? I know very little about their migration path along our California coast, other than the Marin site and now the Montecito and Carpinteria sites in recent years (Bella Vista and Franklin). I have not seen this species in the county, so I’m thinking about an outing this weekend...

Rebecca Coulter 
SB

On Sep 27, 2018, at 4:35 PM, Peter Schneekloth via Groups.Io <peterschneekloth=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:

Good insight Nick, if anyone else has thoughts about where the hawks are moving through N County please share. From where I was I could easily see and ID the TV's and Red-tails above that peak so would have seen, but maybe struggled to ID, anything moving through. I also make a fair number of visit's to the Gaviota Fennel Patch which also gives good views up to that peak, historically not a lot of birds seen. So I opted for something a bit more inland (and importantly easier to hike to).

I'm optimistic about my location E of Santa Maria planned for tomorrow, we shall see.

Peter Schneekloth

On ‎Thursday‎, ‎September‎ ‎27‎, ‎2018‎ ‎04‎:‎14‎:‎59‎ ‎PM‎ ‎PDT, Lethaby, Nick <nlethaby@...> wrote:


It might be worth trying the 101 pass crest above Gaviota as birds may move along the ridge there. Ken and I checked out Tranq Peak once in early Oct and had about 4 accipiters in a quick burst but then nothing for an hour. There are certainly a few migrant raptors getting into the Pt Conception area, but only small numbers. FWIW I found a BW Hawk a few years back in Oct on the western edge of Lompoc (Floradale x Central). It was likely just taking off from roosting in the riparian strip there and interestingly headed off ENE presumably to catch some thermals in the Purisima Hills. This would support the route you originally suggested.
 
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To: main@sbcobirding.groups.io
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] [sbcobirding] Gaviota Area - Attempted Hawk Watch
 
I spent just over two hours this morning (10:00 AM to 12:15 PM in the Gaviota area. I was not expecting a ton of birds but still wanted to sample if any hawks could be detected moving through the area. I found a spot on the Tunnel View Trail that allowed views of the ocean to the S and the Hwy 101 X 1 interchange to the N. This gave me a sweeping view of the hills to the west of the freeway. Location shown on the map here:

https://mapper.acme.com/?ll=34.49640,-120.22671&z=14&t=R&marker0=34.49640%2C-120.22671%2C1.3%20km%20S%20of%20Las%20Cruces%20CA 

The Gaviota area is visited by a lot of birders so if large movements of birds was normal here it certainly would have been detected before. Today only minimal movement was detected. I had 1 Sharp-shinned, 2 Coopers, 1 Red-shouldered and 4-5 Red-tailed Hawks. It is likely that at least the Red-tails and possibly the Coopers and Red-shouldered were local. At least one of the Coopers and the Red-shouldered felt as if they were moving east, the Sharpie almost certainly so. Local Turkey Vultures and White-throated Swift were visible for much of the time. 

I have another spot just E of Santa Maria I will be trying tomorrow.

Peter Schneekloth
Buellton



--
Wim van Dam (Solvang, CA)
SBCO #377+3: Least Bittern


Re: [EXTERNAL] [sbcobirding] Gaviota Area - Attempted Hawk Watch

Rebecca Coulter
 

Have La Cumbre Peak or any of the saddles along East Camino Cielo ever been considered possible passages for Broad-winged Hawk? Or do they tend to skirt the higher ridges? I know very little about their migration path along our California coast, other than the Marin site and now the Montecito and Carpinteria sites in recent years (Bella Vista and Franklin). I have not seen this species in the county, so I’m thinking about an outing this weekend...

Rebecca Coulter 
SB

On Sep 27, 2018, at 4:35 PM, Peter Schneekloth via Groups.Io <peterschneekloth@...> wrote:

Good insight Nick, if anyone else has thoughts about where the hawks are moving through N County please share. From where I was I could easily see and ID the TV's and Red-tails above that peak so would have seen, but maybe struggled to ID, anything moving through. I also make a fair number of visit's to the Gaviota Fennel Patch which also gives good views up to that peak, historically not a lot of birds seen. So I opted for something a bit more inland (and importantly easier to hike to).

I'm optimistic about my location E of Santa Maria planned for tomorrow, we shall see.

Peter Schneekloth

On ‎Thursday‎, ‎September‎ ‎27‎, ‎2018‎ ‎04‎:‎14‎:‎59‎ ‎PM‎ ‎PDT, Lethaby, Nick <nlethaby@...> wrote:


It might be worth trying the 101 pass crest above Gaviota as birds may move along the ridge there. Ken and I checked out Tranq Peak once in early Oct and had about 4 accipiters in a quick burst but then nothing for an hour. There are certainly a few migrant raptors getting into the Pt Conception area, but only small numbers. FWIW I found a BW Hawk a few years back in Oct on the western edge of Lompoc (Floradale x Central). It was likely just taking off from roosting in the riparian strip there and interestingly headed off ENE presumably to catch some thermals in the Purisima Hills. This would support the route you originally suggested.
 
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] [sbcobirding] Gaviota Area - Attempted Hawk Watch
 
I spent just over two hours this morning (10:00 AM to 12:15 PM in the Gaviota area. I was not expecting a ton of birds but still wanted to sample if any hawks could be detected moving through the area. I found a spot on the Tunnel View Trail that allowed views of the ocean to the S and the Hwy 101 X 1 interchange to the N. This gave me a sweeping view of the hills to the west of the freeway. Location shown on the map here:

https://mapper.acme.com/?ll=34.49640,-120.22671&z=14&t=R&marker0=34.49640%2C-120.22671%2C1.3%20km%20S%20of%20Las%20Cruces%20CA 

The Gaviota area is visited by a lot of birders so if large movements of birds was normal here it certainly would have been detected before. Today only minimal movement was detected. I had 1 Sharp-shinned, 2 Coopers, 1 Red-shouldered and 4-5 Red-tailed Hawks. It is likely that at least the Red-tails and possibly the Coopers and Red-shouldered were local. At least one of the Coopers and the Red-shouldered felt as if they were moving east, the Sharpie almost certainly so. Local Turkey Vultures and White-throated Swift were visible for much of the time. 

I have another spot just E of Santa Maria I will be trying tomorrow.

Peter Schneekloth
Buellton


Bella Vista hawk watch site routine

Joan Lentz (cox.net address)
 

Hi All:
We need to nominate John Callender as “Mr. Hawkwatch”, because of his dedication in photographing, recording, and compiling the sightings up there! Thanks so much, John!
In case you’re wondering where this place is, there are two hawkwatching locations:
1) Park at the Romero Canyon trailhead (where the creek crosses the road). From here, a dirt fire road winds up and across the foothills to a rocky promontory where you can get excellent views of the surrounding area, best for photography. Distance: about 1.5 mi., takes 30-40 mins. to get up there. Strong people lug scopes and cameras.
2) Continue east across Romero Creek past the trailhead to a spot on Bella Vista Dr. where there’s a gray stucco wall, I think the mailbox says 2764. Please park further on down the road where there’s a pull out on the north side. It’s OK to park a couple of cars by the gray wall, but not a bunch.
My concern: there’s a house behind that gray wall, and the occupants visit only occasionally, but most likely on the weekends. WE CANNOT LOSE THIS PRECIOUS HAWKWATCHING SITE. Please, talk quietly, carpool up there, don’t leave trash around! This is a quiet, exclusive neighborhood & we need to respect that. Our window of hawk watching in fall is so narrow — perhaps only another week.
Be sure we act as great reps for the birding world, OK?
And welcome to those out-of-town birders! Santa Barbara is such a great birding spot, you’ll love it!

Joan Lentz


Note to Locals

Mark Holmgren
 

Welcome visitors to SB County!

Dear SB County Locals,
We have lots of out-of-town birders attending the Western Field Ornithologists meeting in Ventura, but also birding in SB County.   I'm noticing that some visitors are not birding the best portions of some of our hot spots.  Please consider for the next few days adding details of how you are covering hot spots or where key birds are within a hot spot when you submit posts to SB Co Birding and in your eBird checklists. You might also avoid or explain place names known only to us locals.
Best,

Mark Holmgren
Santa Barbara


Hawks (and other interesting migrants) at Romero/Bella Vista Dr

John Callender
 

Just for fun I tried totaling up all the eBird lists from the three hotspots in the Romero Canyon/Romero Fire Road Hawk Watch Site/Bella Vista Drive complex over the last few weeks. I only looked at raptors and other "interesting migrants", and in some cases I made guesses to minimize double-counting when lists were entered from Bella Vista Drive and up on the fire road at the same time. I put all this in a Google docs spreadsheet that you can view here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15MG3KXW8WhntIi8wAGq87Zi8FDUB9IWMrte_AErKikE/edit?usp=sharing

Below are the numbers I got when I totaled up all the days with lists between 9/15 and 9/27. In several cases the same resident birds are being counted on multiple days, so maybe think of this not so much as a count of individuals as a "bird+days" count. For example, the same few American Kestrels, several resident Red-tailed Hawks, and the same Red-shouldered Hawk are doubtless appearing multiple times in these totals. Also, the Golden Eagle seen on two successive days seems likely to be the same bird rather than two separate birds.

Even so, a lot of spectacular birds have been seen up there in the past few weeks.

  Total
White-throated Swift 15
Vaux's Swift 2
American White Pelican 1
Turkey Vulture 36
Northern Harrier 5
Sharp-shinned Hawk 56
Cooper's Hawk 46
Sharp-shinned/Cooper's Hawk 15
Bald Eagle 1
Golden Eagle 2
Red-shouldered Hawk 4
Red-tailed Hawk 61
Ferruginous Hawk 1
Swainson's Hawk 1
Broad-winged Hawk 5
Buteo sp. 11
hawk sp. 1
American Kestrel 12
Merlin 1
falcon sp. 2
Common Raven 18

John Callender
Carpinteria


random raptors SYV, 2018-09-27

Wim van Dam
 

This Thursday afternoon I did a bit of driving up and down Happy Canyon Rd to see what was going on. While I did not get any migratory action, I did end up with nice collection of raptors. At Armour Ranch Road I was surprised to see an adult BALD EAGLE sitting in an oak tree. Also at this location was a gray ghost NORTHERN HARRIER, many TURKEY VULTURES, a few RED-TAILED HAWKS, and an AMERICAN KESTREL. At San Lorenzo Seminary a PRAIRIE FALCON came cruising by, as well as a SHARP-SHINNED HAWK. 

Wim 


--
Wim van Dam (Solvang, CA)
SBCO #377+3: Least Bittern


River park late morning

Joan Lentz (cox.net address)
 

Hi all: I am forwarding a message from Brad Hines from River Park this morning. Perhaps this will be of help to some birders going to North County during the WFO field trips?
Joan Lentz

Today I walked through river park. This is just east of Lompoc off hwy 246.
While the park's cottonwoods have suffered over the years, the trees near the lake and the lake itself look great. I did find the park Birdy compared to a brief stop here Tuesday morning. Some birds from this am.

1 wilson's warbler
1 vermilion flycatcher (female)
5 lawrence's goldfinch
2 lazuli bunting
W-b nuthatch
Green heron

Brad


Re: 4 Broad-winged Hawks at Bella Vista overlook just now

John Callender
 

Photos here:

https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S48786488

In the photos I noticed something I didn't see at the time: One of the birds appears to have something (maybe a wing tag?) on its right wing. Any ideas about that?

John Callender
Carpinteria


Re: [EXTERNAL] [sbcobirding] Gaviota Area - Attempted Hawk Watch

Peter Schneekloth
 

Good insight Nick, if anyone else has thoughts about where the hawks are moving through N County please share. From where I was I could easily see and ID the TV's and Red-tails above that peak so would have seen, but maybe struggled to ID, anything moving through. I also make a fair number of visit's to the Gaviota Fennel Patch which also gives good views up to that peak, historically not a lot of birds seen. So I opted for something a bit more inland (and importantly easier to hike to).

I'm optimistic about my location E of Santa Maria planned for tomorrow, we shall see.

Peter Schneekloth

On ‎Thursday‎, ‎September‎ ‎27‎, ‎2018‎ ‎04‎:‎14‎:‎59‎ ‎PM‎ ‎PDT, Lethaby, Nick <nlethaby@...> wrote:


It might be worth trying the 101 pass crest above Gaviota as birds may move along the ridge there. Ken and I checked out Tranq Peak once in early Oct and had about 4 accipiters in a quick burst but then nothing for an hour. There are certainly a few migrant raptors getting into the Pt Conception area, but only small numbers. FWIW I found a BW Hawk a few years back in Oct on the western edge of Lompoc (Floradale x Central). It was likely just taking off from roosting in the riparian strip there and interestingly headed off ENE presumably to catch some thermals in the Purisima Hills. This would support the route you originally suggested.
 
From: main@sbcobirding.groups.io [mailto:main@sbcobirding.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Schneekloth via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 4:06 PM
To: main@sbcobirding.groups.io
Cc: main@sbcobirding.groups.io
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [sbcobirding] Gaviota Area - Attempted Hawk Watch
 
I spent just over two hours this morning (10:00 AM to 12:15 PM in the Gaviota area. I was not expecting a ton of birds but still wanted to sample if any hawks could be detected moving through the area. I found a spot on the Tunnel View Trail that allowed views of the ocean to the S and the Hwy 101 X 1 interchange to the N. This gave me a sweeping view of the hills to the west of the freeway. Location shown on the map here:

https://mapper.acme.com/?ll=34.49640,-120.22671&z=14&t=R&marker0=34.49640%2C-120.22671%2C1.3%20km%20S%20of%20Las%20Cruces%20CA 

The Gaviota area is visited by a lot of birders so if large movements of birds was normal here it certainly would have been detected before. Today only minimal movement was detected. I had 1 Sharp-shinned, 2 Coopers, 1 Red-shouldered and 4-5 Red-tailed Hawks. It is likely that at least the Red-tails and possibly the Coopers and Red-shouldered were local. At least one of the Coopers and the Red-shouldered felt as if they were moving east, the Sharpie almost certainly so. Local Turkey Vultures and White-throated Swift were visible for much of the time. 

I have another spot just E of Santa Maria I will be trying tomorrow.

Peter Schneekloth
Buellton


4 Broad-winged Hawks at Bella Vista overlook just now

Joan Lentz (cox.net address)
 


Re: [EXTERNAL] [sbcobirding] Gaviota Area - Attempted Hawk Watch

Nick Lethaby <nlethaby@...>
 

It might be worth trying the 101 pass crest above Gaviota as birds may move along the ridge there. Ken and I checked out Tranq Peak once in early Oct and had about 4 accipiters in a quick burst but then nothing for an hour. There are certainly a few migrant raptors getting into the Pt Conception area, but only small numbers. FWIW I found a BW Hawk a few years back in Oct on the western edge of Lompoc (Floradale x Central). It was likely just taking off from roosting in the riparian strip there and interestingly headed off ENE presumably to catch some thermals in the Purisima Hills. This would support the route you originally suggested.

 

From: main@sbcobirding.groups.io [mailto:main@sbcobirding.groups.io] On Behalf Of Peter Schneekloth via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 4:06 PM
To: main@sbcobirding.groups.io
Cc: main@sbcobirding.groups.io
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [sbcobirding] Gaviota Area - Attempted Hawk Watch

 

I spent just over two hours this morning (10:00 AM to 12:15 PM in the Gaviota area. I was not expecting a ton of birds but still wanted to sample if any hawks could be detected moving through the area. I found a spot on the Tunnel View Trail that allowed views of the ocean to the S and the Hwy 101 X 1 interchange to the N. This gave me a sweeping view of the hills to the west of the freeway. Location shown on the map here:

https://mapper.acme.com/?ll=34.49640,-120.22671&z=14&t=R&marker0=34.49640%2C-120.22671%2C1.3%20km%20S%20of%20Las%20Cruces%20CA 

The Gaviota area is visited by a lot of birders so if large movements of birds was normal here it certainly would have been detected before. Today only minimal movement was detected. I had 1 Sharp-shinned, 2 Coopers, 1 Red-shouldered and 4-5 Red-tailed Hawks. It is likely that at least the Red-tails and possibly the Coopers and Red-shouldered were local. At least one of the Coopers and the Red-shouldered felt as if they were moving east, the Sharpie almost certainly so. Local Turkey Vultures and White-throated Swift were visible for much of the time. 

I have another spot just E of Santa Maria I will be trying tomorrow.

Peter Schneekloth
Buellton


Gaviota Area - Attempted Hawk Watch

Peter Schneekloth
 

I spent just over two hours this morning (10:00 AM to 12:15 PM in the Gaviota area. I was not expecting a ton of birds but still wanted to sample if any hawks could be detected moving through the area. I found a spot on the Tunnel View Trail that allowed views of the ocean to the S and the Hwy 101 X 1 interchange to the N. This gave me a sweeping view of the hills to the west of the freeway. Location shown on the map here:

https://mapper.acme.com/?ll=34.49640,-120.22671&z=14&t=R&marker0=34.49640%2C-120.22671%2C1.3%20km%20S%20of%20Las%20Cruces%20CA 

The Gaviota area is visited by a lot of birders so if large movements of birds was normal here it certainly would have been detected before. Today only minimal movement was detected. I had 1 Sharp-shinned, 2 Coopers, 1 Red-shouldered and 4-5 Red-tailed Hawks. It is likely that at least the Red-tails and possibly the Coopers and Red-shouldered were local. At least one of the Coopers and the Red-shouldered felt as if they were moving east, the Sharpie almost certainly so. Local Turkey Vultures and White-throated Swift were visible for much of the time. 

I have another spot just E of Santa Maria I will be trying tomorrow.

Peter Schneekloth
Buellton


Semipalmated Sandpiper at Bird Refuge

Cuyler Stapelmann
 

The semipalmated sandpiper I found yesterday evening near the 3rd platform continues today at 1 PM. It is currently feeding with least sandpipers.

Cuyler
Santa Barbara


[eBird Alert] Santa Barbara County Rare Bird Alert <daily>

eBird alert
 

*** Species Summary:

- Rufous Hummingbird (1 report)
- Semipalmated Sandpiper (1 report)
- Little Blue Heron (2 reports)
- Ferruginous Hawk (1 report)
- Cliff Swallow (1 report)
- Northern Waterthrush (2 reports)
- Black-and-white Warbler (1 report)

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NOTE: all sightings are UNCONFIRMED unless indicated

Rufous Hummingbird (Selasphorus rufus) (1) CONFIRMED
- Reported Sep 24, 2018 09:00 by Rob Denholtz
- Alice Keck Park, Santa Barbara, California
- Map: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=p&z=13&q=34.4296434,-119.7060233&ll=34.4296434,-119.7060233
- Checklist: https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S48766515
- Comments: "Overall rich colored rufous, much more so than Allen's, striking copper color, (several but not many) green feathers on the back. Showing a white throat under the gorget. Green, dark charcoal wings. Approx. 31/2" long."

Semipalmated Sandpiper (Calidris pusilla) (1)
- Reported Sep 26, 2018 17:45 by Cuyler Stapelmann
- Andree Clark Bird Refuge, Santa Barbara, California
- Map: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=p&z=13&q=34.4215353,-119.6572856&ll=34.4215353,-119.6572856
- Checklist: https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S48769773
- Comments: "I sat at the 3rd platform for a while and finally convinced myself I was looking at a semipalmated sandpiper. But it was feeding with western and least sandpipers which made the ID a little easier. Compared to western it was slightly smaller, more streamlined in appearance, and had a shorter straighter bill. Compared to least, it had dark legs and less brown on the breast. It may have been the light but it appeared to have very limited rufous on crown and back."

Little Blue Heron (Egretta caerulea) (1)
- Reported Sep 26, 2018 15:17 by Cruz Phillips
- Goleta Beach County Park, Santa Barbara, California
- Map: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=p&z=13&q=34.4171771,-119.829812&ll=34.4171771,-119.829812
- Checklist: https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S48765329
- Comments: "It’s blue now. Same bird in spring was mostly white. Someone should take him home. He looks lonely. "

Little Blue Heron (Egretta caerulea) (1)
- Reported Sep 26, 2018 14:30 by Wayne Weber
- Goleta Beach County Park, Santa Barbara, California
- Map: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=p&z=13&q=34.4171771,-119.829812&ll=34.4171771,-119.829812
- Checklist: https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S48771067
- Comments: "Adult-- reportedly present here for months"

Ferruginous Hawk (Buteo regalis) (1) CONFIRMED
- Reported Sep 22, 2018 15:30 by Libby Lindsay
- Miguelito at Sudden Roads, Santa Barbara, California
- Map: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=p&z=13&q=34.5747122,-120.5165863&ll=34.5747122,-120.5165863
- Checklist: https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S48770411
- Media: 2 Photos
- Comments: "A swiftly moving buteo appeared from the south moving in a southeastern direction to alight on hilltop.
As the hawk flew directly over my position, it was an obvious cream to white coloration with the exception of dark lines on each flank at point where wings connect. Once landed the head showed as
primarily white, large gape with yellow lining, eyes deepset with dark line extending to back. Presented
as Light Morph Ferruginous Hawk."

Cliff Swallow (Petrochelidon pyrrhonota) (1)
- Reported Sep 27, 2018 09:06 by Sue Riffe
- Ocean Beach County Park, Santa Barbara, California
- Map: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=p&z=13&q=34.6909567,-120.6003785&ll=34.6909567,-120.6003785
- Checklist: https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S48779207
- Comments: "White patch of forehead and no forked tail, flying with barn swallows"

Northern Waterthrush (Parkesia noveboracensis) (1) CONFIRMED
- Reported Sep 26, 2018 13:45 by Becky Turley
- Carpinteria Creek, Santa Barbara, California
- Map: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=p&z=13&q=34.3930006,-119.5140259&ll=34.3930006,-119.5140259
- Checklist: https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S48766859
- Comments: "continuing in creek along water treatment plant. Dark brown upperparts, supercilium. Light yellow underparts with dark streaks, pink legs. Walking and bobbing. Photos will be added."

Northern Waterthrush (Parkesia noveboracensis) (1) CONFIRMED
- Reported Sep 26, 2018 12:30 by John Harris
- Carpinteria Creek, Santa Barbara, California
- Map: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=p&z=13&q=34.3930006,-119.5140259&ll=34.3930006,-119.5140259
- Checklist: https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S48765615
- Comments: "I am visiting the area for the WFO meeting in Ventura, and was attempting to find the reported Ovenbird at this location. A helpful teacher at the preschool at the end of 6th street helped me figure out how to access the creek, and near the corner of the wastewater treatment facility I saw a Northern Waterthrush foraging and bobbing at the edge of the creekbed. I did not see an Ovenbird. I have a couple of reasonable photos but will have to add them when I am home next week."

Black-and-white Warbler (Mniotilta varia) (1) CONFIRMED
- Reported Sep 24, 2018 09:00 by Rob Denholtz
- Alice Keck Park, Santa Barbara, California
- Map: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&t=p&z=13&q=34.4296434,-119.7060233&ll=34.4296434,-119.7060233
- Checklist: https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S48766515
- Comments: "Appeared to be a first winter bird, with light black striping on both flanks. Black and white striped crown, white supercilium, white throat, black and white streaked mantle, white-black-white wing bar pattern. Seen walking along horizontal tipu trees, not flitting about."

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How Broad-winged Hawks get to our county

Wim van Dam
 

All right, the good news is that yesterday (Wednesday September 26, 2018) the Golden Gate Raptor Observatory sighted 74 Broad-winged Hawks moving in our direction. 

Obvious question: how long will it take them to get to our latitude? I found the following N=1 data point involving "Journey", which was successfully tracked by GGRO using radio telemetry. (Unlike Red-tailed Hawks, Broad-wings are too small for GPS tracking.) Following a migrating bird with radio telemetry is extremely labor intensive and in the links below you can read the entertaining story of a team of people tracking Journey as it flew from the Bay Area to the US-Mexico border.

Some relevant data points are:
- Wednesday September 23, 2015: Journey gets caught and released in Sausalito, just north of San Francisco
- Wednesday night he roosted just south of San Jose
- Friday night he roosted around our Figueroa Mountain
- On Saturday he was south of LA
- On Monday Journey crossed over the US-Mexico border. 

This trip was unusually fast with good weather, but it seems that those 74 Broad-winged Hawks could start showing up in our county as soon as Friday afternoon. 

Here's where you can read about the ordeal of tracking this bird:

Good stuff.

Wim 
 

--
Wim van Dam (Solvang, CA)
SBCO #377+3: Least Bittern


Re: Herring Gulls

Ken Hoesterey
 

Hi
I have watched the Yellowlegs in the slough since they came back, and lately there are one or two that do not stay with the group. The flock usually numbers 6-8 and they stay pretty close together yet the two other more solo are independent of them. 
   One or both of the solos does a lot of head bobbing that the flock of 6-8 do not. They seem the near the same size, the same markings but the behavior is odd, altho I could convince myself they seem bigger than the flocked birds.      Would they be Greater and the flock perhaps Lesser?..or possibly a juvenile flock or a whole nother species of Sandpiper.
Last winter there was a similar flock of Yellowlegs all winter that stayed near each other all day at the slough exit.
Any ideas?...'besides birds are weird', lol.
Ken Hoesterey

On Wednesday, September 26, 2018, 10:46:17 PM PDT, Steven Gaulin <gaulin@...> wrote:


I was surprised to find 6-7 adult Herring Gulls at Campus Point about 4:00 PM today. I seldom see so many individuals of this species in the County. Other gulls were predominantly Western, with only one Heerman's.

Also, 12 Greater Yellowlegs at Goleta Slough seemed mildly noteworthy at 11:00 AM today.  An Osprey was also present.

Steven Gaulin
Santa Barbara